Please Stop Talking Nonsense About Gog/Magog - November 2023 Series

PLEASE STOP TALKING NONSENSE ABOUT GOG/MAGOG - November 2023

ERRORS ABOUT THE GOG MAGOG WAR - November 2023

It really disturbs me that some people become fanciful about the Gog war, and make stupid statements about it that show they have nor studied Ezekiel 38 and 39 correctly. One should not go about making assertions unless you have the whole in context.

In the awful, current situation in Israel I see people are again raising the possibility that this could be the start of the Gog/Magog war. I am not criticizing any of the RR writers as I think most are balanced in that matter. HOWEVER, will you please consider this clarification I want to do at this time. It is always hard to break entrenched ideas and these ideas aggregate over time, then coalesce, and then are never questioned.

I do not ever place myself as a fount of knowledge. I am always striving to come to the truth but I am saying we must ALWAYS EXAMINE THE WHOLE IN CONTEXT. For those of you who think the Gog war happens before the Rapture or happens early in the Tribulation, please consider what I am saying. I am setting out the case for the impossibility for that to happen.

Let us look at selections from Ezekiel 38 and 39 regarding this war.

[1]. APOCALYPTIC LANGUAGE DOES NOT BELONG TO THE PRE-RAPTURE/PRE-TRIBULATION PERIOD

{{Ezekiel 38:18 It will come about ON THAT DAY, when Gog comes against the land of Israel,” declares the Lord GOD, “that MY FURY WILL MOUNT UP IN MY ANGER, Ezek 38:19 and in MY ZEAL AND IN MY BLAZING WRATH I declare that on that day there will surely be a great earthquake in the land of Israel. Ezek 38:20 The fish of the sea, the birds of the heavens, the beasts of the field, all the creeping things that creep on the earth, and ALL THE MEN WHO ARE ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH WILL SHAKE AT MY PRESENCE. The mountains also will be thrown down, the steep pathways will collapse, and every wall will fall to the ground,”}}

The quotation there begins with “on that day” and immediately Gog moves against Israel, but then, all this judgement comes from God. The language used in verses 18 and 19 is as strong as it can get. This is God in wrath. Nothing could be more fearful. People on the earth, and the earth itself will shake. That sort of thing can only happen in the time of God’s wrath, that is, in the Tribulation time. That places the setting for Gog in the Tribulation. It CAN NOT be before the Tribulation.

There are key words, phrases and contextual indicators all through the bible but especially in the Old Testament. There are certain ones that have prophetic significance. One of these is “In that day” and another “At that time” and another “On that day”, and there are a couple of variants of those. Every single one of them has the fulfillment in the Tribulation or in the Millennium. I can not cover all that right now. Check it out for yourself if you don’t believe me. I wish people would not jump to conclusions with a study of only a partial section.

LOOK AT VERSES 19 AND 20 –

* A great earthquake. The verse says “in the land of Israel” but that is being specific. I think this is in the “earthquake period” and many are described in Revelation. Earthquakes are always associated with judgement IN THE BOOK OF REVELATION.

* The words in the NASB “My zeal and in My blazing wrath,” or in the AV “my jealousy and the fire of my wrath”. The Holman Version I greatly respect says “My zeal and fiery rage.” Now who among you, or those who read this, can truly say this is language that would apply to the current Church age? Stop trying to force the Gog war into the present! Verse 38 is just as telling – “My fury will mount up in My anger.” YES, the fury of God is mounting up, as is His anger, and will soon be released BUT NOT BEFORE the Rapture.

And what about those of you who say the Gog war happens in the first part of the Tribulation. Well if you recall, there is a treaty operating for 7 years made with Israel by the Antichrist to begin the Tribulation years, that he breaks half way through, but the first three and one half years are peaceful for Israel. Well, the Gog war can not happen then either, so that leaves us ONLY the second half of the Tribulation for that to occur.

BUT WHEN IN THE SECOND HALF?

That is not a difficult answer, and I believe all who get the Gog campaign confused and misplaced, do so because they fail to read the WHOLE account. They just take the beginning of the account and reject the end of the account. We will work through this important area.