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Summary: According to the Bible, dead people do not praise God. The Bible says this again and again. they do not praise the Lord - So, where do they go then?We all know there is no purgatory, so where do we go then? Psalm 115:17 Ecc 3:20-

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If we want to understand how life ends, I suggest that we understand how it began. Life is, after all, a bigger mystery than death. We struggle to explain it. We can describe the chemical processes that keep us ticking from day to day, right down to the cellular level, but we’re not entirely sure what life actually is. What makes us self-aware and conscious? What is the spark that actually gives us life?

The biblical account of human origins is remarkably simple: “The Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and the man became a living being” (Genesis 2:7).

We are carbon-based life forms. My eighth-grade biology teacher said that, essentially, we’re “made of the same stuff you find in your chimney.” Though he was not a believer, that teacher might have been surprised to discover that he was agreeing with the author of Genesis, who tells us that human beings were made from “the dust of the ground.”

We understand and can explain that we are made of the same chemical elements as the ones that make up the earth and all that’s found on it. What we don’t understand is how inorganic elements become walking, talking, thinking beings with distinct personalities. How does a collection of chemicals laugh, cry, hate, and love? How can someone make you and me from a pile of dirt?

The Bible writers present God as the One who provided the spark of life, the One who breathed into Adam’s nostrils “the breath of life.” Thus, the formula for life is simple:

Dust of the ground + the breath of life (the God-given spark) = a living being

And, surprisingly (or not so surprisingly), the biblical formula for death is simply a reversal of the formula for life:

Dust of the ground – the breath of life (the God-given spark) = a dead being

David put it this way: “You hideYour face, they are troubled; You take away their breath, they die and return to their dust” (Psalm 104:29, NKJV).2 Genesis says much the same thing: “By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; for you are dust, and to dust you shall return” (Genesis 3:19, ESV).3 And the book of Ecclesiastes says something similar, but with a small twist: “The dust will return to the earth as it was, and the spirit will return to God who gave it” (Ecclesiastes 12:7, NASB).4

At this point some confusion starts to build. Just what is this “spirit” that goes back to God?

Spirit and breath

Popular theology today says that human beings have a conscious soul that inhabits the body during life, and it departs the body at death. And the author of Ecclesiastes seems to say the same thing—that our bodies turn to dust and our “spirits” head for the higher realms, to be in the presence of God. But in the language in which Ecclesiastes was written, that’s not what the verse is saying.

The Hebrew word that’s been translated “spirit” in English is ruach. This word can actually mean several things—wind, breath, mind, and spirit among them. But the primary sense of the word is simply “breath.” That’s why, in the King James Version, we find this odd passage: “All the while my breath is in me, and the spirit of God is in my nostrils” (Job 27:3, KJV).

Was Job actually telling us that a ghost was living in his nose? No!

The word translated “spirit” here is ruach, which, as we’ve noted, can also mean “breath.” If we take Job to mean some sort of disembodied ghost, we run into the ridiculous assertion that Job had a ghost up his nose.

The ancient Hebrews often communicated their thoughts through parallel assertions, a pattern that is especially frequent in the book of Psalms. In this case, Job’s expressions, “the breath that is in me,” and “the spirit of God that is in my nostrils,” mean the same thing. Job is acknowledging that his ability to live is a gift that only God can give. When God withdraws that gift, we stop breathing, and then we die.

And that’s what the author of Ecclesiastes was saying: the dust returns to the earth, and the spirit—the breath—returns to God. In fact, in the New American Standard Bible, the translators went to the trouble of creating a marginal note to let us know that “spirit” can be translated “breath.” And for the sake of our modern Western minds, it probably should have been translated that way in this case. Ecclesiastes is saying the same thing that Genesis and Psalms say: When you live, it’s because God has granted the gift of life. When that gift is gone, you stop breathing and turn back into dust.

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Ricardo Lockhart

commented on Jun 21, 2016

You did not mention Luke 23:46, Acts 7:59, Philippians 1:21-23, 2 Corinthians 5:6-8,

Coz Von

commented on Jun 22, 2016

I will have an answer ready for you shortly. God bless you my friend

Coz Von

commented on Jun 24, 2016

Let me start by giving you something to think about The verse (To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord) meaning (to be dead is to be with Christ in heaven) is misquoted. Many people, and I mean many! Can quote this verse from memory. But I want to focus your attention on how this verse is misquoted, and being misquoted it distorts the meaning. The correct quotation is: 2 cor 5: 8 ?We are confident, I say, and willing RATHER TO BE absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord. (Meaning, I?d rather be with Christ than in my earthly body). You will notice, t verse is not focusing to the time of transformation, but the hope of transformation.

Coz Von

commented on Jun 26, 2016

Let?s keep in mind, the Bible does not contradict itself. Whatever conclusion we come to, it must come from the Bible and it must harmonize with all of Scripture. (If the Bible contradicts itself, then we are interpreting it wrong)

Coz Von

commented on Jun 26, 2016

Also, take a look at the verses and notice, the words body is and soul is nowhere in there. Thus, When Jesus had cried with a loud voice, He said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said this, he gave up the ghost, (breath and the spark of life) This agrees with the rest of the verses we studied, the following verses show that the Spirit (breath and spark of life) shall return unto God who gave it Luke 23:46 Ecc 12:7

Coz Von

commented on Jun 26, 2016

Ecclesiastes 12:7 and Gen 3:19 further explain that, when we die, we will return to dust where we came from. Ecc 3:20 adds that ALL people (and all includes those who eventually will go to heaven or hell). All people INITUALLY goes to the exact same place, which is, the grave in the form of dust, gen 3:19. But did Jesus go to the grave too. According to Isaiah 53:9 YES!

Coz Von

commented on Jun 26, 2016

In the Bible, Is there any examples of people who died and came back to tell the story? Yes according to John 11:43, Matt 9, several people were raised from the dead. Neither one of them had a testimony of their experience in heaven) Lazarus was called and came forth from the grave, Jesus also came out of the grave and He did not mention going to heaven or paradise. In the Bible, we do have examples of people who were resurrected from the dead, Their silence is overwhelming and it speaks volumes!

Coz Von

commented on Jun 26, 2016

Let?s look at the parts of Philippians 1:21-23, 2 Corinthians 5:6-8, which troubles us: For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain? We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord. Philippians 1:21, 2 Corinthians 5:8 The Bible is my only textbook, and the Bible does not contradict itself. Whatever conclusion we come to, it must come from the Bible and it must harmonize with ALL Scripture. (If the Bible contradicts itself, then we are missing the point!) So, the question that needs to be answered is: When we die, do we immediately leave our bodies and go to heaven to be with the Lord?

Coz Von

commented on Jun 26, 2016

Let?s examine Paul?s theology more closely Spiritually speaking, In Gal 2:20 Paul says I am (spiritually) crucified with Christ: nevertheless I (physically) live; yet not I, but Christ (spiritually) liveth in me: and the life which I now live, in the flesh, I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Coz Von

commented on Jun 26, 2016

Paul is saying: Col 3:1 If ye then be (spiritually) risen with Christ, seek those things which are above and Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. Col 3:2 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ

Coz Von

commented on Jun 26, 2016

Col 3:3 8 We are confident, I say, and willing that at the last trump, AFTER this corruptible has put on incorruption and this mortal immortality, to be absent from the Body and present with the Lord. THEN shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead SHALL BE raised incorruptible, and we SHALL BE changed.1 cor 15:52. THEN AND ONLY THEN when Christ shall appear, THEN shall ye also appear with him in glory. Col 3:3-4 1 Cor 15:54

Coz Von

commented on Jun 26, 2016

So, this is then what Paul believes: When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, THEN shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. So, it is clear that Paul is looking forward to the second coming when he will be raised incorruptible to be present with the Lord. Paul knew, death, to the Christian, is just a sleep. A moment of silence in darkness, the life is hid with Christ. When Christ, who is our life shall appear, then shall ye also appear with Him in glory." See, he makes this clear in 1 Corinthians 15:51,52.

Coz Von

commented on Jun 26, 2016

Does this give an answer to your concerns and do you find it to be truth?

Robert Allen

commented on Jul 4, 2016

Ricardo, what is your understanding of the relationship of Exergesiscall process and private interpretation?

Coz Von

commented on Jun 22, 2016

Please revisit these comments, I will prepare an answer and post it shortly

Robert Allen

commented on Jul 4, 2016

In reviewing your statements above I'm not fully convinced that as you put it, "a moment of silence in darkness" this would imply a conscienous of time. With God there is no relevance of time, only for mankind on Earth. When we die in Christ all confines of fallen Earth end. We are no longer bound by the concept of Time. Conscienous never ceases. Why is it so important what happens at death if one is saved. If one is lost and dies he has a problem the next moment of event, which comes instantaneously in his mind.

Coz Von

commented on Jul 4, 2016

I think you are saying the same thing, but you are explaining it otherwise: Saying "Conscienous never ceases" and "the next moment of event, which comes instantaneously in his mind" is a contradiction in terms. Death would be better describes as an unconscious state, but the next conscious thought will be at the resurrection, thus, the one who died do not perceive the passing of time. "time is still passing" but it will seem to him as if no time passed

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