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Summary: Heaven on earth, and hell on earth, are real experiences, but the fact is, when the body dies the soul departs and returns to God. The question is, just where is God and His dwelling place located?

This explains how we can be surrounded with a great cloud of witnesses, and how the saints in heaven can know what is happening on earth. If God grants them the awareness, they can see anything in time, just as those in time can see anything in heaven. Jesus said the rich man in hell could see Lazarus in the bosom of Abraham. A great gulf was fixed so there was no crossing, but he could see heaven from hell, because God opened the curtain. Stephen saw heaven from earth, and so no matter where you are in the universe, you can see heaven if God opens up that dimension, which is everywhere.

A place in space is either near or far to any other place in space, but a place in non-space is capable of being both near or far, depending upon the state of mind of the one relating to that place. The saved are ever near heaven, but the lost are ever far from it. But, if they repent and trust in Jesus as Savior, they can be near heaven without having traveled an inch. Heaven is as near as our relationship to the King of heaven.

When Moses and Elijah talked with Jesus on the Mt. of Transfiguration, they did no have to travel through billions of miles of space to get there. They were watching the life of Jesus as it transpired, from their place in heaven. They knew what was going on in his life, and that he was heading for the cross, because they were in the presence of God, which is the perfect place to see all that is going on in the dimension of time. The disciples did not understand what Jesus was facing, but they did, and they were able to comfort Jesus. Jesus knew he was being watched from another dimension and this was a positive motivation to keep on the track he knew was the will of his Father.

A lot of things make sense when we see heaven is another dimension. For example, the new heaven and the new earth. The new heaven does not mean God is going to scrap His perfect dwelling. This is a reference to the atmospheric and astronomical heaven. The whole material universe is stained by sin and is incompatible with God's perfection. It has to be made new so that it can be incorporated into the third heaven of God's presence.

The ultimate goal of Christ is to redeem the entire creation of God, which means the earth, and the other two heavens. Paul says in Eph.1:9, "For He has made known to us in all wisdom and insight the mystery of His will, according to His purpose which He set forth in Christ as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in Him, things in heaven and things on earth." Jesus is, Himself, the perfect uniting of the earthly and heavenly. He is flesh and spirit--God and man. Heaven in it's final state will literally be everywhere, for everywhere will be incorporated into heaven. The solar system, the milky way, and all the astronomical heaven will be a part of the eternal home of the saints. That black hole in the North, and every other part of God's creation will be a part of the eternal heaven.

It makes a difference how you phrase your question. If you ask, where is heaven? The answer is, in another dimension. But if you ask, where will heaven be? The answer is everywhere, for all that is will be a part of heaven, with Jesus as the Lord of all. The only part of reality that will be left out will be hell. That will be in another dimension separated from heaven.

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