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Summary: In a world where Satan’s disctractions are ever increasing, the Church, has become experts on how to grow the numbers of attendees, but has forgotten it’s commission to teach all that Jesus commanded them. The challenge is to be discipled and then discipl

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Mark 8:34-38

Discipleship / To Be or Not to Be

As I began to prepare for chapter 9 this week, I felt like the Lord was speaking to my heart to come back to the end of chapter 8 and speak to you this morning God’s heart about a particular subject that He has burned into my heart for the past several months.

As we get closer and closer to the coming of Jesus, it should be no surprise that the devil has been, and will continue to attempt to distract the body of Christ away from things that are basic to our faith. These tactics are not new as we see Satan using them throughout history for the very same purpose he uses them today, he just seems to package these things differently for the times they are intended for. He makes them trendy, fashionable, even seemingly spiritual in order to gain a foothold in people’s lives to get their attention off of the things that matter to God and upon themselves and the worldly goals they have spent their lives pursuing.

Today even the church itself has been caught up in, distracted by, has accepted, and by and large sold out to the methods of secular personal and corporate growth, substituting the written Word of God for books authored by men whose mentors and closest confidants are, not men of God, but the growth gurus of corporate America. There are countless so called biblical teachings out there today that proclaim the worlds message of tolerance and inclusion for the sake of getting people inside the doors of the church. “If we can just get them to come” we say. “If we can just get them into the seats, then we’ve got em.”

Actually some of what those people write and teach can found within the oracles of orthodox Christianity. They dress the message up with bits and pieces of scripture, using only the context of those scriptures that fit their motive, even using paraphrase versions of the Bible that have been widely rejected by the respected leaders of the church today.

The problem, you see with these things, is not so much what they do teach, but what they don’t teach and what is left out. They say “the most effective way to minister to the homosexual, the fornicator, the idol worshipper, is to just get them into the church building and make them comfortable”, “to break down the walls that separate us” even using the small group settings like kinships as the floodgate by which sin is allowed to flow freely and openly, right into the mainstream of the church. “Let them feel the love of God’s people and hear our really stylish music and our trendy messages and they will change.” “Let them rub elbows with the Christian and that will win them over.”

Where in God’s word did we ever see Him allow that kind of activity within the community of his people? Has it ever been acceptable by God for the people of the world to continue practicing their sin while they made up their minds whether or not they wanted to be part of His body. You won’t find it. The Bible says today is the day of your salvation. To allow unregenerate people to sit and enjoy the benefits and blessings of the Lord’s body without pointing out to them that they are in a desperate situation because of their sin, is an injustice to the Word of God and His Holy Spirit. In fact the better part of the Old Testament was spent describing the absolute disgust it brought the Lord when His people mingled and mixed with the people of the world and participated in the sins they committed. He never allowed Israel to mingle or allowed them to have within their walls the peoples of the world. He knew Israel would never withstand that kind of contact and would fall prey to the tactics of Satan and his people every time, and they did.

Have we honestly lost our minds to think that we are any stronger today? The book of Judges is packed full of the trendy and fashionable temptations of those days that Israel fell prey to. The end result was the same in each case, “And AGAIN, the children of Israel did evil in the sight of the Lord.” And the same can be said of the trendy, fashionable, post-modern church of today that allows the people’s of the world to come in and comfortably practice their sin inside the church all in the name of tolerance, inclusion, for the purpose of filling up a building.

Is it any wonder we see homosexuality at the extreme levels of leadership in the organized church today. Is it any wonder we have divorce among Christians surpassing that of the world, albeit because the world has all but ceased to make the commitment of marriage in the first place. Is it any wonder we have people today in the church who come, sit and listen to the Word of God taught in all of its power, only to return home to continue living in fornication by cohabitating with a partner they aren’t even married to? Last time I checked the Bible says that isn’t suppose to happen, “But fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness, let it not even be named among you, as is fitting for saints; For this you know, that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.” Galatians 5.

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Joann Kelley

commented on May 10, 2022

Hello, Pastor Terry! How are you? You probably don't remember me anymore, and that is perfectly okay. I used to attend the Calvary Chapel East Mountain church with my dad, Chris Kackley, many years ago. You may have also met my mom, Louise Kelley, before also. She did attend your church in Edgewood for a little while, but she is quite shy and doesn't like to be around a lot of people, and that is the reason she had to stop coming. It was a great church, and I loved it for awhile. I made a few friends and had a wonderful time listening to your Sunday sermons, and I remember how excited and happy I would get when you and your lovely wife, Colleen, showed up occasionally at my Bible study group. I still love you to this day, and I hope you are doing well. Remember that evening when you and Colleen invited my parents and I to your house for dinner? I had a wonderful time, and Colleen was as sweet as always! Dinner was great, too. And I thought it was pretty cool that you love NASCAR as much as my father and I did. I still love the sport. I want to thank you for your hospitality that evening. And for that time you took my dad flying, how that made his day. I will cherish these memories forever! Unfortunately, not all of my church memories were wonderful ones, and it was those memories that made me decide to quit church, denounce my Christian faith, and to this day, never look back. I was never a true believer to begin with, even though I was saved and baptized already before I started coming to church. You see, I was diagnosed with high-functioning autism while I was in my 40's (2012, I believe), and because of my autism, I struggled to understand and keep up with what I was supposed to do as a Christian. I was never good at talking to people, getting my point across, and spreading the Gospel, and I even prayed to God for this gift, too, but never really received it. I eventually gave up on praying to God after awhile because I couldn't understand how I was supposed to pray effectively. That was the first sign of my declining relationship with the church. And then I came out as gay, and knowing what the church believes about the LGBTQ communities (communities which I totally support and embrace, along with my support of women's reproductive rights and my dislike for Donald Trump), looking back, I now realize how traumatized I eventually felt after Trish and Suzanne took me into the cry room one Sunday morning to pray away my gay and try to convince me that being gay was a choice, a sin, and neither of them would listen to me when I told them that just the evening before I had seen on TV what science had already proved: the brain scan of the gay man really was different from that of the straight man, proving once and for all that (a) science does not make this stuff up or they can get themselves into a lot of trouble and lose their grant money, and (b) you really are born gay. And I think it's a shame that men and women who are gay in the church are forced by the church to remain celibate and deny themselves the love, companionship, and partnership they so desperately want and need just because they have chosen not to marry into a hetrosexual relationship. I'm still celibate, by the way, and will remain that way probably for life, because I was never married, and I am in love with another woman who is already in a relationship with a female partner. Thanks to the church, I will forever be messed up sexually, emotionally, mentally, psychologically, and spiritually, and the hurt that I feel deep inside my soul will cause me to never trust again, not even God, whom I think has the personality of a classic narcissist, because of the atrocities He committed in the Bible and the fact that He condemns anyone and everyone who is gay or a nonbeliever when He is supposed to love us unconditionally. So much for unconditional love! The definition of unconditional love is when someone loves you no matter what, and that love does not expect anything in return. God expects us to love Him, worship Him, and obey Him at all costs in return for His love. I'm sorry, Pastor Terry, but to me, this is a narcissistic personality, a classic one. And how do I know this? Because my dad was one, and I knew him better than you did because I've lived with him all my life. He was controlling and mean, and he was also a pedophile who molested me since I was little and went to prison back in 1987 for assaulting a 6-year-old boy. And back in 1975, when I was 8 years old, my dad got himself kicked out of the Air Force for molesting 2 little boys while my parents and I were stationed in Honolulu, Hawaii. Pastor Terry, I tried to warn you about my dad one evening at Bible study, and you would not listen to me. That hurt me more than words can say, and to this day, I am still trying to figure out how to forgive and move on. My dad was not a true Christian, either, because of his narcissism. He faked it to impress you and the rest of the church and to make me look crazy, like I was the one who made everything up while my dad was treated like he was good and honest and true when he really wasn't a good man at all. This doesn't surprise me, though, considering you probably voted for Donald Trump and will vote for him again in 2024 knowing full well how horrible he was, but you denied that while claiming to be honest and true yourself. The hypocrosity amazes me! And how am I supposed to avoid trying to be something I'm not because God loves me just as I am if the church is going to turn around and make me into something I'm not by trying to rid me of certain characteristics that make me who I am as a person, like the fact that I'm gay and autistic? Should God punish me for being autistic, too, because of certain behaviors that go with being autistic? I eventually left the church because I felt out of place, like I somehow did not belong there, and I couldn't stand the shame and the guilt of how I was treated in trying to make me straight when I was gay. I'm sorry, Pastor Terry, but you cannot speak the truth or claim that you speak the truth if you turn around and spread lies and misinformation about the LGBTQ communities and vote for and support crooked politicians while pointing out the so-called lies that you believe are going on from the democratic perspective when you know full well that a lot more progress is made when a Democratic president is running the White House! And you cannot claim that you are practicing the art of love and compassion when you flat out refuse to practice inclusion and tolerance. It does not work that way. And it is a wonder more people are leaving the church and Christianity than ever before. Anyway, just thought I'd drop by and say hello, and that there are no hard feelings. I only wanted to share my experiences with you in hopes that maybe the church will someday change its ways. Love always, Joann

Joann Kelley

commented on May 10, 2022

Oh, and I forgot to mention something: Dad passed away on May 12, 2016, at the age of 71, so I live with my mom now, who will be 76 in October of 2022. We don't have our dogs anymore, either. I will be 55 in August of 2022, and I have never felt freer or happier my entire life. With my dad being gone, and me no longer a Christian, I finally have the freedom to think for myself and be the person that I really wanted to be but couldn't because of my dad and the church. No one can tell me what to do, what to think and believe, and how to live my life anymore, and I can now be spiritual in my own way, too, without having to belong to a Christian church or any other religious organization. I believe in reincarnation now, and it is the only thing that makes perfect sense to me. Again, no hard feelings!

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