8This is why it Or God says: “When he ascended on high, he took many captives and gave gifts to his people.” Psalm 68:189(What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions Or the depths of the earth ? 10He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.) 11So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers,